بِسْمِ اللَّهِ الرَّحْمَٰنِ الرَّحِيمِ

In the Name of Allah, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful.


DEAR READERS, KAZIM IN HIS LAST COMMENT TOLD ME THAT HE IS NOT REFUTED, AND LET READERS DECIDE..... I AGREE THAT READERS SHOULD DECIDE..... COMMENT UNDER THIS POST, AND TELL US YOUR VERDICT PLEASE....

‎@SALINI: You said "jesus never took swords and never told anyone to do so"..... Why don't you write a new bible, and remove the following verses from it,
1. then he said to them, "but now, he who has a bag a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a knapsack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one."
2. So they said,"lord, look, here are two swords." and he replied,"it is enough"...
Remove these verses and name your bible as "Salini International Version".... Best of luck...
-ssr

about an hour ago ·  · 

  • 3 people like this.

    • Kazim Salini very well thats all you got,try try hard.hehe
      about an hour ago · 

    • Kazim Salini all in vain
      about an hour ago · 

    • Kazim Salini ‎@answering pyem:infact you guys should make a new commentries of your own following the wrong interpretations of the text of mercy.no i am not gonnna remove them and make new versions because there is nothing violent in it,it is just a bad example of picking verses out of context.these verses are supposed to be in parables and metaphors as prescribed by the sentences which led to that.again we dont have to learn Bible by heart,can open and get reference but once more reference please??????
      about an hour ago · 

    • Answering PYEM Ministry Inc. 
      Okey i agree that the sword was a metaphor.... Now let you explain, how does a metaphorical sword cut ears, and how did jesus heal a wound which was cut by a metaphorical sword...
      Let you tell us the context.... IF the swords were metaphorical or spiritual or whatever you say... Then the garments must also be spiritual or metaphorical. And if the disciples were going to sell their spiritual or metaphorical garments to buy spiritual or metaphorical swords, and in that case they would all become spiritually or metaphoricaly naked... He he.... Furthermore spiritual or metaphorical swords don't tear off physical ears.... Read mathew 26.51 or luke, i don't know the exact verse, to fine out how metaphorical sword cuts physical ears...
      -ssr

      about an hour ago · 

    • Answering PYEM Ministry Inc. And the references of the two verses above are.... Luke 22:36, 38, or something near these two references....
      about an hour ago · 

    • Kazim Salini ‎@answering pyem:read above carefully i never saif that these very verses are metaphor but they can be when sometimes you pick them out of context
      about an hour ago · 

    • Kazim Salini ok,just wait i am convinced there is no jihad in the new testament
      about an hour ago · 

    • Kazim Salini He says all this using an allegory, as if he said, O my friends and fellow soldiers, you have lived until now in relative peace: but now there is at hand a most severe battle to be fought, and you must therefore lay all other things aside and think about dressing yourselves in armour. And what this armour is, is shown by his own example, when he prayed afterward in the garden and reproved Peter for striking with the sword.
      57 minutes ago · 

    • Kazim Salini He that hath no sword, let him... buy one. Not to be taken literally, but a striking way of saying that enemies upon every side will assail them.
      57 minutes ago · 

    • Answering PYEM Ministry Inc. 
      i never take verses out of context because i don't like to fool people, thats why i don't indulge in online debating.... And if you read the context of these verses you will come to know, that jesus was preparing for an ambush, he was a master tactician... But his tactics failed because he thought of encountering jews, but what he encountered were roman soldiers and then after knowing that he was not facing children he told his disciples to back of or else they would have been butchered..... Don't ever blame me for taking verses out of context.... I never do it...
      -ssr

      56 minutes ago · 

    • Kazim Salini In the way to eternal happiness, we must expect to be assaulted and sifted by Satan. If he cannot destroy, he will try to disgrace or distress us.
      55 minutes ago · 

    • Answering PYEM Ministry Inc. He didn't change his tacktics before but he changed it after seeing that he had been fooled and thats why he told them to back of... This was merely a change in plan and nothing else...
      52 minutes ago · 

    • Kazim Salini ‎@answering pyem:i think you should make ur own commentry for interpretations,readthe context and you will surely know it,there is no sword thing literally
      50 minutes ago · 

    • Answering PYEM Ministry Inc. answer me in clear cut terms, i have told you hundred times that don't beat around the bush.... Tell me did jesus ever recommend swords.... Yes or no.... Were the swords physical or spiritual.....
      49 minutes ago · 

    • Kazim Salini there is a reason why Jesus said all these things in such a mannar so that you people take the meaninf from it as you like,the roman empire was after Jews and Jesus their saviour these things were said in parables
      48 minutes ago · 

    • Answering PYEM Ministry Inc. How do metaphorical swords cut ears.... Tell me the answer.... If they were not literal then how did they cut ears....
      48 minutes ago ·  ·  1 person

    • Kazim Salini Good question but wait>>
      46 minutes ago · 

    • Answering PYEM Ministry Inc. beating around the bush... Jesus recommended swords.... If it had been metaphorical sword then he would not have told them to sell their literal clothes.... If they were not literal swords, how come did they cut the ear of the high priest...
      46 minutes ago · 

    • Answering PYEM Ministry Inc. ‎-ssr
      44 minutes ago · 

    • Kazim Salini Jesus never said to use them,dare you to prove your case where it is said to use them
      42 minutes ago · 

    • Kazim Salini these are meant to defend and literall meaning,never said that these are metaphors but parables sometimes
      41 minutes ago · 

    • Answering PYEM Ministry Inc. He placed eight out of his eleven disciples at the entrance to the courtyard, i ask what for.... To play inni mini mo.... Or to crack jokes or to poke each other.... What for.... Let me tell you.... This was a strategy of defence.... The entrence had to be well protected or else when he would have been praying somebody would come and slay him...
      41 minutes ago · 

    • Answering PYEM Ministry Inc. He placed eight out of his eleven disciples at the entrance to the courtyard, i ask what for.... To play inni mini mo.... Or to crack jokes or to poke each other.... What for.... Let me tell you.... This was a strategy of defence.... The entrence had to be well protected or else when he would have been praying somebody would come and slay him...
      40 minutes ago · 

    • Kazim Salini it means that be prepare for the severe persecution which will be given by the romans
      40 minutes ago · 

    • Answering PYEM Ministry Inc. 
      Now that i think i have proved to u that he recommended swords, u wand me to prove that he wanted them to use them..... Just tell me what for did he recomment the swords dor.... To cut bananas of to cut apples.... What for.... the only purpose of swors is to kill while attcking or defending...Ppeople at the time of jesus didnt use swords to pare apples or bannanas nor was it a ritual to cut ears of high priests with swords.... What for did a disciple attack..... to prove what.... I guess love.... or to show that ears can be cut.... or someone was farting and he didnt want him to hear.... Why did he keep eight at the entrs.... for wht.... for poking each other... why did he take three with him and why did he tell them to keep vigil... I ask y.... I guess he wanted to chek who among the 8 was best poker..... or may be his sixth sense was telling him that the high priest was comming to poke him... he must have told the three to cut of the finger of the one one who poked him while he was bowing down in prayer... Wht for... Kazini what for..... POKING WAS NOT AN ISSUE, Neither WAS IT A RITUAL TO CUT EARS..... SWORDS ARE MEANT FOR FIGHTING.....

      6 minutes ago · 

      After this much of discussion Kazim comes with same stories again..... 
      His first claim:"NOWHERE DID JESUS RECOMMEND SWORDS"
      VERDICT: He agrees that he recommended swords....
      His second claim:"BUT THE SWORDS WHERE METAPHORICAL"
      VERDICT:He agrees that the swords were literal..
      His third claim:"BUT ONLY TWO SWORDS MEANS IT WAS JUST FOR DEFENDING"
      Verdict: NOT YET FOUND......
      YOU CAN SEE HOW HE CHANGES HIS STANCE WITH EVERY REFUTATION...
      He started with that nowhere did jesus recommend swords and now he has ended with that they were for for defence...
      Here is his further discussion....


      • Kazim Salini note readers i dont have to write a proper response to it,but see my comments above where i said saaib produce the evidence where it is said to use them to kill or to do jihad.hehe
        about an hour ago · 

      • Saaib Ahmed First of all u didnt even agree that he recommended swords, i proved it..... Now u want me to prove that did he want them to use it, and the proof is above..... Let the readers read it......
        about an hour ago · 

      • Kazim Salini ‎@saaib,there are many notes which use the same topic of urs lets readers read all and judge,it is obvious the words swords are there in the Bible but is ithe question????
        about an hour ago · 

      • Kazim Salini the question is what to do with these,the answer is not certainlt to use them
        about an hour ago · 

      • Saaib Ahmed what for are they recommended then..... i guess to cut onions.....
        27 minutes ago ·  ·  1 person

      • Kazim Salini to take them for pre-cautionary measures and not to pose a war certainlt with two swords,lol
        25 minutes ago · 

      • Kazim Salini can tell you two swords can only be used for onions
        25 minutes ago · 

      • Saaib Ahmed 
        Precaution??????? Yes thats can be the case..... but how do u use swords while dfending..... u dont say to the opposite ppl...."LOOK I HAVE GOT SWORD AND TWO OF THEM","I CAN CUT ONIONS AND EARS"..... No.... They are used to attack while de...See More

        21 minutes ago · 

      • Kazim Salini 
        lets see what saaib just said,what is saaib trying to prove????? well saaib again you got me wrong as far as i know i said as apparent from my ab...See More

        13 minutes ago · 

      • Saaib Ahmed I have been telling the whole story from the begining.... And about jesus' reaction i already wrrote,"He didn't change his tacktics before but he changed it after seeing that he had been fooled and thats why he told them to back of... This was merely a change in plan and nothing else..."...... Jesus changed his tactics when he saw that the people he was against were not Jews but Romans.....
        10 minutes ago · 

      • Kazim Salini in that case there is much more danger since romans are the greater authority and anything against them will eventually end in execution so question remains there why only to swords to tacke the group of authority.
        8 minutes ago · 

      • Kazim Salini indeed the argument of the admin of this page has ever been weak.hehe
        6 minutes ago · 

      • Saaib Ahmed yes this was the case.... he started thinking of jews but he ended facing romans.... he started by thinking of attacking/defending, whatever u call it, but he ended surrendering.....






        • Kazim Salini so thats what you think,good story by the way,
          3 minutes ago · 

        • Kazim Salini the question remains there the swords carried by just two,why them only why not others and why two,certainly the jews and romans dont have to be some 9 in number.these claims are too absurd to even comtemplate
          2 minutes ago · 

        • Saaib Ahmed but they were there... now u agree... and your statement was that jesus never recommended swords..... REFUTED.....







          LET U BE THE JUDGE..... KAZIM STARTED BY SAYING THAT JESUS NEVER RECOMMENDED SWORDS AND ENDS UP WITH ONLY TWO....
          DEAR READERS, KAZIM, IN HIS LAST COMMENT, TOLD ME THAT HE IS NOT REFUTED, AND LET READERS DECIDE..... I AGREE THAT READERS SHOULD DECIDE..... COMMENT UNDER THIS POST, AND TELL US YOUR VERDICT PLEASE.... 
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7 Response to "[Updated] Kazim Salini Discusses "METAPHORICAL SWORDS" with SAAIB.."

  1. Shah Saaib Said,

    http://www.facebook.com/answeringpyem/posts/138621639540468
    Read the actual discussion....

    Posted on 19 March 2011 at 23:43

     
  2. Anonymous Said,

    well done bro.............may ALLAH give u the reward for dis

    Posted on 19 March 2011 at 23:48

     
  3. Avais Mohammad Said,

    MashaAllah brother, very interesting !!

    Posted on 20 March 2011 at 00:36

     
  4. Zeenat Said,

    You have done a commendable work. He is answer less..

    Posted on 20 March 2011 at 00:45

     
  5. Shah Saaib Said,

    In my discussion with Kazini, he has suggested that the world should be the judge.... Please read this post and tell us your verdict..... Plz read it..... It is important.... Give an unbiased answer if u are real followers of GOD.... Fear god.... Your judgement should be hust....

    Posted on 20 March 2011 at 04:07

     
  6. ahmad Said,

    saaib welldone bro...... my all best wishes are with you and i think these pyem people are not going to accept the truth... may ALLAH make you successful in your work... my thumbs are with you

    Posted on 22 March 2011 at 07:55

     
  7. mir firdous Said,

    well done brother...
    may almighty ALLAH bless us all with the wealth f imaan..(ameen).

    Posted on 30 September 2011 at 08:57

     

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